In a year when we’re reassessing the role of law enforcement in the real world, is it time to reimagine the role of street-level super-cops in fantasy worlds? I talk with prosecutor Patrick O’Connor and police officer Henry Wong about how Batman or The Punisher could better reflect the times. Matthew Westfox, co-host of the podcast Superhero Ethics, discusses the moral quandaries of Daredevil. Peter Nowak, author of “The Rise of Real-Life Superheroes,” explains why costumed crime fighters are no longer just in fiction. And we hear from real-life superheroes The Grim and Violet Valkyrie, who used to patrol the streets of San Diego with a team until they had a falling out with them over Black Lives Matter.